DESTROYING THE SHELTER

[manfredvijars]

I wrote this a few years ago when another islamic "Preacher of Hate" came out here to stir the 'faithful' ...

DESTROYING THE SHELTER
(c) 2005 Manfred Vijars

[Dennis N O'Brien]

An insoluble problem that will only get worse I'm afraid - good one.

[Neville Briggs]

Hate is in the gospel they proclaim;

Interesting piece Manfred. Islam is a triumphalist politico/cultural construct. It's nature is not to sit beside others in passive acceptance, to do that would deny it's vision of universal conquest. Sadly it's been a common factor in human nature to use violent coercion establish what they regard as the divine rule. The Hitlerites did it, Communists did it, shamefully so-called Christians have done it. The only answer is that we strongly apply the rule of law. Are our leaders up to it ??

Just one small point Manfred " the gospel " is an expression that does not appear anywhere in Islam. It has no meaning whatsoever in Islamic teaching. Islam is most certainly, most firmly NOT a gospel.

[manfredvijars]

I'm sure it doesn't Nev, but in context of the piece and generally accepted terms, gospel = something accepted or promoted as infallible truth or as a guiding principle or doctrine ...

My spin on the future of mankind in a "triumphalist politico/cultural construct" would be, the islamists and Hispanics displace the Anglo/Caucasians. Then the islamists and Hispanics stoush it out and when the dust settles after that lot the Chinese will rule the World ...

In the mean time, how many more treasures of Australian literature can we uncover ??

[Neville Briggs]

Here's a treasure of literature Manfred gospel most certainly does not mean; something accepted or promoted as infallible truth or as a guiding principle or doctrine.
It is used that way sometimes by mistake.
Some people think that it is a style of music.

Gospel comes from the old germanic language..god spel...it means good news. It refers to an announcement of something that has happened.

I have had an experience with the middle eastern mob and bush poetry Manfred. Myself and another member of our Singleton Bush Poets were engaged to do a bush poetry performance at a dinner. When we arrived we found out it was a gathering of, shall we say, middle eastern types. They were totally uninterested in Australian bush poetry. We had to withdraw in humiliation, defeated by their noisy uninterest.

[manfredvijars]

Ah, Nevvie, when christianity spread through the lands of my forbears via the Teutonic Knights (not mentioning Inquisition) it was most certainly promoted as an 'infallible truth' and strictly adhered to as a "guiding principle or doctrine". A faith promoted by the enlightenend from a Flat Earth mentality. The 'enlightened catholics 'forgave' Galilleo for his theories of a Sun central planetary system some four hundred years after his death? Divine enlightenment perhaps?? ...

Gospel/god-spel (Gott-Schpiel) may have originally meant 'good news' but millions have suffered and continue to suffer under the varying strictures stemming from the God of Abraham.

Now we have this 'enlightened' mob protesting something we here in Australia had bugger-all to do with. Flat Earth rising perhaps? ..

I stand by the commonly accepted definition: "something accepted or promoted as infallible truth or as a guiding principle or doctrine". "Gospel" in the context of my piece is correct and if you dissagree, I will behead you!!! ...

[keats]

Sorry to hear Nev. I did a corporate function for over 150 Muslims who worked for an International Company. It was on the 51st floor (Victoria Club) of the Rialto Building in Melbourne. Maybe it was the type of Bush Poetry you did? I don't know. But my crowd absolutely loved it and bought a heap of my CDs. But I do check on my audience before I confirm bookings. I would perform again for 'shall we say, middle eastern types' at the drop of a burqa.

That's gospel, mate! lol

Neil

[Vic Jefferies]

Great poem Manfred and very accurate.
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[Neville Briggs]

Our mob weren't Muslims Neil. That's very interesting that you got a good acceptance, well done, good show !!
I might have to accept that my failure to interest another cultural group was entirely due to my ineptitude at performing. That's probably more like it

Just to stick to the literary scene Manfred

I get a bee in my bonnet about how words in our language are getting twisted away from their meanings.
Gospel had a precise meaning, referring to a particular message.
Another word that everyone is aware of, is gay. It also had a meaning far removed from it's modern usage.
truth ..used to have a precise meaning of established and testifiable fact, now it seems to mean..whatever I choose to believe.
Another one is hero...it used to mean someone of special outstanding accomplishment of strength and bravery. Now it is used of anyone who we decide has done something we admire or endured something a bit discomforting.
There's many more.

As a fan of poetry and language it pains me to see our language debased like that, and the corollary is that our thinking and reasoning gets debased by the same process.

Us brave poets should stand against such surrender.

[manfredvijars]

Thanks Vic ...

Nev, given that islam and israel stemmed from the seed of Abraham - and BOTH worship the same god (of Abraham) AND each are deemed to be 'right' according to the adherants, could it be said that the god of Abraham speaks with a forked tongue ?? ...