Waltzing Matilda Day

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Re: Waltzing Matilda Day

Post by Glenny Palmer » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:21 pm

warooa wrote: . . for what it's worth I reckon Eric Bogle's The Band Played Waltzing Matilda is one of the great all time songs.
....absobloodylutely!! I couldn't agree more Marty. Mr Bogle is, IMO, one of our finest poets. Now that is a patriotic song!

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Re: Waltzing Matilda Day

Post by Heather » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:26 pm

Thanks for posting that Neil. Very interesting. The book sounds like it would be worth having.

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Re: Waltzing Matilda Day

Post by Neville Briggs » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:26 pm

warooa wrote:The Band Played Waltzing Matilda is one of the great all time songs.
WHAT !! ..all time... :o :o was Mozart was an also ran, did Beethoven never live, was Schubert a wasted space , has Dvorak not composed Song to the Moon!!

Eric Bogle's song I reckon is great poetry, except the line where they ' sailed off to Gall-ipo-li. " ( shudder )
The tune is quite good I reckon, simple and melodious.
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Re: Waltzing Matilda Day

Post by Glenny Palmer » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:49 pm

...perhaps Mr Bogle is Mozart reincarnated Nev? 8-)
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Re: Waltzing Matilda Day

Post by Neville Briggs » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:54 pm

In the field of popular Australian folk, I think Eric Bogle's song stands out as fine quality. He has a long way to go to catch up with the "greats " ;)
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Re: Waltzing Matilda Day

Post by Glenny Palmer » Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:38 pm

Goodo Neville...now...hows about you rhyme ''Gallipoli'' for us.... :twisted:
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Re: Waltzing Matilda Day

Post by keats » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:30 pm

Hey Nev. Better change that to

In the field of popular International folk, I think Eric Bogle's song stands out as fine quality.

Those other old piano playing ragbags you mentioned couldn't write 'songs' just movements and symphonies. Can't remember one decent guitar solo on a Mozart Track, and not even any lyrics!!!! lol

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Re: Waltzing Matilda Day

Post by Neville Briggs » Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:40 am

I didn't write the song so that's not my problem Glenny. ;) :roll: :D

Neil,
Beethoven's Ode to Joy is without doubt the most instantly recognisable song all over the world. It was even used as a pop song some years ago. Mozart wrote Twinkle Twinkle Little Star, not very profound, but it's a song that has survived in popular culture for a couple of centuries.
The composers I mentioned were innovators who brought genius and creativity of the highest order to the world of music. Not only did they write plenty of songs but they brought folk, popular and traditional country songs into the opera and the symphony concert hall, they were hardly ratbags. :shock: ;)

I heard Eric Bogle talking about his song ( And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda )
he told an interesting bit how he had presented it to a group of Vietnam Vets.
He was a bit uncertain how they would respond to this sort of song.
He got a very good reception, the vets told him afterwards that when he sang the line
( I think it goes ) " they just stood and stared , then turned with their faces away " it really resonated with the Vietnam vets as their experience of their homecoming reception.
So that shows. as I said, good poetry in the song. Powerful poetry in this case.
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Re: Waltzing Matilda Day

Post by warooa » Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:14 am

When I saw Eric Bogle he said (about that song) he had wanted to write an anti war song that was supportive of our soldiers. I reckon he achieved that.

You can hear versions by Liam Clancy, John Williamson and the singer (can't remember his name . . only his teeth :mrgreen: ) from The Pogues but none do it like Mr Bogle himself. I just love the song and even try and play it on the piano meself.

I hear you regarding the forced stresses of Ga-llip-o-li though Nev, but for a greater Australian war song (and lyric) you can't go past either Don Walker's Khe Sanh or John Schumann's I was only 19.

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Re: Waltzing Matilda Day

Post by Neville Briggs » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:47 am

And I think there is a valuable lesson for us bush poets to learn from these examples Marty, they are not sentimental. brutally realist you might say, which I think is a clue to the power of expression in poetry writing.
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