Should the ABPA be funding this forum ?

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Re: Should the ABPA be funding this forum ?

Post by Heather » Mon May 27, 2013 11:08 pm

I found bush poetry because another poet told me about this web site. I knew nothing about metre when I first came here. Because of the people on this website I learnt about metre and rhyme. Glenny talked me through it and my first poem with proper metre developed - on-line, here, with everyone taking an interest and learning too. We, as a group, continue to give that help and encouragement to new poets and we do see the improvement in many poets' writing. That encouragement is vital and can't be given or found anywhere else (unless you are lucky enough to have a local writers' group which most of us do not).

I write today because I have been inspired by the poetry of other poets on this website and the encouragement I was given. I would never have grown to love poetry in it's different forms the way I do if it weren't for the people I have met here - many of them friends on and off the site. And you know what, I like having poing friends. :)

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Re: Should the ABPA be funding this forum ?

Post by Glenny Palmer » Tue May 28, 2013 9:57 am

G’day all,
I’m in a helluva hurry to get going...to finally see my kids in Brissy. So I can’t contribute as much as I would like to....just yet. I may get some flashes of inspiration during my long drive....but for now...

Has there ever been a concerted drive/promotion for ABPA membership? I’m not aware of any major ones. So I think that the following that we do have here today, is really quite remarkable, given that it is largely the result of the relatively small mob that we are, generating same, from simply sharing & being involved. I wonder at the potential for better results if a concerted promotional programme was undertaken.

I have a Corporate background & would be happy to contribute to such a drive....when I’ve had time to recover from my recent tragedies, & have my life running a little more smoothly. Our target audience (at present) is largely the greying population. Can the ABPA afford advertisements in publications that are ‘grey’ specific? eg ‘The Seniors Magazine’ & the ‘Motor Home Assocn’ etc. Perhaps they, like Neil, would welcome contributions from us, not only of poetry but of entertaining yarns/experiences & certainly blurb on festival experiences etc? We have some wonderful humorists in our ranks & it seems to me that some of their shenanigans would be well received by such publications. Back this up with a dedicated push into radio etc. Bob Pacey is a stand-out individual example of successfully doing this, + tropical Marty,...with the northern ABC comp etc etc. Perhaps such a drive needs to be formulated & instigated? We all do our own little ‘local’ promoting. Can we pull this together for a combined assault rather than let all of this good work remain scattered?

Non-poets seem fascinated with versifiers, & even the yuppy TV presenters who have occasionally featured a short poetic spot seem chuffed by them.

As for the site: I echo Heather’s sentiments & can only add that during the horrific year of nursing croc, I think I’d have gone completely nutso if I had not had the access to & camaraderie that our website supplied. To me, it almost qualifies as a valid Aged Community Support service.....which are usually funded by Government.

Hopefully I can pick this up in a few weeks with a view to helping expand our wider profile. (and remember Neil’s observation that we’ve achieved all that we have, via volunteers. The wisest thing for any one of them to do is to cry ‘help’ when it is needed.)

I gotta flyyy!...or I’ll be driving in the dark.

Lotsalove & good luck!
Glenny :D
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Re: Should the ABPA be funding this forum ?

Post by Zondrae » Tue May 28, 2013 11:19 am

My bit..

If not for the ABPA members, I think my retirement would have been hell on earth. It is because of their advice and encouragement that I became involved in writing, reciting, and competing with Australian Bush Poetry. At one stage I heard my husband say that Bush Poetry had become my 'life'. (Now it is split between Poetry and Ukulele playing).

Each time I perform I mention (or have the MC mention) the ABPA. I promote the website whenever and where ever I can. I even take application for membership forms with me. I will be promoting the ABPA today on local community (2VOX FM) radio when I will be on air about 1.30pm. The reason they are having me on is to promote the Kembla Flame but the presenter loves poetry and will let me recite a few poems as well as talk about the competition.

I hope to do the same on local ABC sometime in the coming week as the comp closes on 7th June which is frighteningly close. I have as yet to approach the local commercial stations.
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Re: Should the ABPA be funding this forum ?

Post by Stephen Whiteside » Tue May 28, 2013 1:05 pm

I've really appreciated the cameraderie of the forum over the last few years. I find it especially valuable during the winter months, when there aren't many festivals for me to get along to to get my 'fix' of poetry...but it's great all year round. I've met a few of you, but most of you I haven't, and possibly never will. While it would be nice to do so, it won't be the end of the world if I don't, because I already feel I most of you pretty well - thanks to the forum.
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Re: Should the ABPA be funding this forum ?

Post by keats » Tue May 28, 2013 1:13 pm

What was the question again?

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Re: Should the ABPA be funding this forum ?

Post by David Campbell » Wed May 29, 2013 10:01 am

To quote Marty's precise words from another thread:

"Having a whinge on here does bugger all you are preaching to the converted clique and will reach an audience of oh about ten people at the most"

The word "irony" comes to mind. And the expression "shooting yourself in the foot".

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Re: Should the ABPA be funding this forum ?

Post by Maureen K Clifford » Wed May 29, 2013 11:32 am

totally agree - and it has been a very worthwhile and enlightening discussion. Thanks to Mannie for providing the inside info
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Re: Should the ABPA be funding this forum ?

Post by Zondrae » Wed May 29, 2013 12:42 pm

My bit again,

I recall a period back a few years now, when there were two very active sites available to poets to 'talk' to each other and post their poems. There was one run by Frank Daniel and one run by Ric Raffits. Many of the poets contributing were on both sites. A few were only on one or the other. Then Frank's site went down. We had only the 'other' site. Ric went through a period when he couldn't be contacted and I (as moderator) tried to handle any problems as best I could. That site is up and running again but I am not currently active there.

I was delighted when the ABPA came on with an official website and I feel sure that I am not the only one. Manfred asked me to be the first moderator.(mainly because, back then, I was the most prolific poster.) I was 'on air' at least ten times a day. Recently I have not been so active and we have excellent moderators in Heather and John Peel. Between Heather and Maureen and Bob, they welcome new comers, answer questions and comment on almost every post. They do a great job.

Even though there may only be between a dozen and twenty people using the forum regularly, I am sure there are hundreds of others who drop in occasionally. The general public can and do use the site as a reference source.

I rely on the site to fill me in about competitions and results etc. The magazine only comes out every second month. This is a long time to wait for results and other information. I am always telling people to refer to the site. If there was a cost for running the site I woud be prepared to pay extra membership to cover it. I think it is one of the main arteries delivering 'blood' to the ABPA.
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Re: Should the ABPA be funding this forum ?

Post by David Campbell » Wed May 29, 2013 1:02 pm

Ah, now I understand, Marty. So when you bring something up on the website it's called "raising discussions and looking at where we are as an organisation". But when others do it (about improving competition rules, for example), it's called "having a whinge" to a "converted clique" and they're told to "get it into the magazine". That explains a lot.
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Re: Should the ABPA be funding this forum ?

Post by keats » Wed May 29, 2013 1:17 pm

I think this argument has pretty much reached it's conclusion. I must say thanks to Marty for instigating the thread. Not many even knew if there was a cost involved in running the site. Others have given wonderful feedback as to why the Website has been and still is of such value to them. A lot of positive things have come out of it. Yet another turning point in the Website Forums. Thanks Marty for raising the issue and thanks to all those who have given such wonderful feedback. I, like Marty, did not know if the Website was an expensive cost to members nor just how many people visited the site apart from our regular contributors.

I think it has been a positive discussion and no animosity should be shown towards any member who raises issues like this in the future.

Thanks to all, I now have a greater appreciation of the forums. I hope others have to.

Cheers

Neil

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